AI’s Future: Opportunity, Regulation & Limits with Vinny Lingham & Sunny Madra | E1729
This Week in Startups
Jason Calacanis
4.2 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 26 April 2023
⏱️ 74 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Vinny and Sunny join Jason to discuss the three phases of AI adoption and the emergence of new business models (1:55), which leads to a conversation about Grimes open-sourcing her AI-generated vocals before debating whether the government should regulate AI (24:57). They wrap with a conversation about AI’s technical constraints, OpenAI’s transparency issues, and the future of startups (39:31).
(0:00) Show start
(1:04) Vinny and Sunny join Jason
(1:55) The three phases of AI adoption
(11:15) CacheFly - Get 10 terabytes free by signing up at https://twist.cachefly.com
(12:41) Building AI applications
(18:27) House of Macadamias - Get 20% off your first purchase and a free bottle of cold-pressed macadamia oil at http://houseofmacadamias.com/twist by using code twist20
(19:59) Emerging business models
(24:57) Grimes’ approach to AI-generated music
(28:31) Notion - Take the first step toward an organized, happier team. Apply for Notion for Startups at https://notion.com/jason.
(30:04) Regulating AI
(39:31) The technical constraints of AI
(45:33) Becoming more efficient with AI
(51:16) OpenAI’s lack of transparency
(1:01:44) Lessons from Mahalo
(1:05:55) The future of startups
(1:08:36) Reflecting on the Starship launch
FOLLOW Sunny: https://twitter.com/sundeep
FOLLOW Vinny: https://twitter.com/vinnylingham
FOLLOW Jason: https://linktr.ee/calacanis
Subscribe to our YouTube to watch all full episodes:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkhmBWfS7pILYIk0izkc3A?sub_confirmation=1
FOUNDERS! Subscribe to the Founder University podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/founder-university/id1648407190
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | This week in Startups is brought to you by Cash Fly is a pure play CDN provider that |
| 0:05.9 | makes CDN simple, effective, and secure. |
| 0:09.4 | Deliver content faster than your competitors and get 10 terabytes free forever if you sign |
| 0:15.1 | up at twist.cashfly.com. |
| 0:19.2 | That's TWIST.cach.fli.com. |
| 0:25.2 | House of Academias is the next big health trend. |
| 0:28.6 | Get 20% off your first purchase and a free bottle of cold-press macadamia oil at House |
| 0:34.2 | of Macadamias.com slash TWIST by using code TWIST20 and Notion is now offering eligible |
| 0:42.3 | startups up to 6 months free for their PLUS PLAN plus unlimited AI for that 6 months. |
| 0:50.2 | Start saving your startup some money and apply for Notion for Startups today at Notion.com |
| 0:56.0 | slash Jason. |
| 1:00.2 | Welcome everybody back to this week in Startups AI and crypto are basically the two |
| 1:06.8 | why-nows that we've experienced in the last five years. |
| 1:10.0 | One of them perhaps fading here in the United States and the other one soaring with me to |
| 1:14.1 | discuss it all on our weekly or every other week by weekly AI crypto round table. |
| 1:21.8 | Sunny, Sunday, Madra, the co-founder of definitive intelligence and Vinny Langham, the co-founder |
| 1:28.8 | of Civic and Weight Room. |
| 1:32.7 | Welcome back to the program boys. |
| 1:35.7 | Thanks for having us again, Sunny. |
| 1:38.7 | All right. |
| 1:39.7 | There has been a lot of discussion about the phases under which AI will be adopted. |
| 1:48.1 | From Alawalia, the founder of Lumida Wealth Management, it's an alternative asset founded |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jason Calacanis, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Jason Calacanis and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

