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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

AI is advancing faster than Congress. Here’s why that’s a bug

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Politics, News, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Last November, when the artificial intelligence platform ChatGPT launched, an old science fiction question suddenly became very real: How long until the machines are smarter than the humans?  It marked the beginning of a new era in technology – one that has enormous implications for the economy and the nation’s politics. On the Hill, members of Congress suddenly needed answers about the coming disruption. The expert they turned to for those was a video game developer from Southern California, Rep. Jay Obernolte (R-Calif.). Obernolte is, according to his peers, the guy you need to know on AI. He has a masters in the field and owns a very successful video game company. On this episode of Playbook Deep Dive, he tells Playbook’s Ryan Lizza the truth about this powerful new technology and what it means to Washington, D.C.; from AI’s regulatory forecast to what – if anything – Congress can do to soften a potential white collar job apocalypse that its widespread adoption might bring. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Rep. Jay Obernolte is the congressman for California's 23rd district.Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When I was growing up, one of my favorite movies was the 1983 Cold War Classic War

0:10.0

Games. It featured a spooky military computer, the Whopper, that turned on its engineers

0:17.7

and almost launched a nuclear attack.

0:19.9

Well, the Whopper spends all its time thinking about World War III. 24 hours a day, 365

0:28.5

days a year, plays an endless series of war games.

0:32.7

War games grappled with a classic sci-fi question. What happens when the machines are smarter

0:38.3

than the humans?

0:43.2

Last November, with the launch of the Artificial Intelligence Platform Chat GPT, that question

0:49.3

suddenly became very real. It marked the beginning of a new era in technology, one that has

0:55.2

enormous implications for the economy and our nation's politics. On Capitol Hill, members

1:00.6

of Congress suddenly needed answers about the coming disruption, such as the common belief

1:06.9

that AI might replace millions of white-collar jobs in the near future. But as you might

1:13.2

expect, many members of Congress are basically computer illiterate. So when they needed

1:18.6

an expert to understand the AI revolution, the guy they turned to was a video game developer

1:24.3

from Southern California. Congressman J. Obernolte.

1:31.3

I'm Ryan Liza. This is Playbook Deep Dive.

1:38.7

J. Obernolte is not your average member of the house. While his future peers in Washington

1:43.9

were joining the college Republicans or college Democrats, he was a Caltech writing code

1:48.8

for his side hustle. When they got law degrees or internships on Capitol Hill, Obernolte

1:54.0

got a master's in Artificial Intelligence. And as those same future congressional colleagues

1:58.6

were climbing the political ladder in their home states, he was building a very successful

2:03.8

video game company that is now 35 years old. He did eventually jump into politics. Obernolte

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