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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

AI Infidelity

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Dr Kirk Honda interviews local MFT Trevor White about a new trend he’s been noticing: couples coming to therapy after one person was discovered having an affair with an AI chatbot. You can find more info about Trevor White at constellationtherapyseattle.com.
April 24, 2026

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/KIRK to get 10% off your first month.

00:00 Introducing Trevor White, MS LMFT MHP05:00 What does infidelity with AI look like?
16:48 Could AI be apart of relationships going forward?
23:01 What areTrevor's thoughts on AI? 
29:10 What is it like to specialize in infidelity? 
36:04 What is WAMFT?

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0:00.0

Hey, Desirvin listeners. We have a special guest on the podcast in the office with me. I feel like I have to point that out because often if there's a guest, I'm talking over video conference. So Trevor White, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me, Kirk. It's great to be here.

0:15.1

So tell us about yourself and what you want to tell the listeners. You want to share something with the listeners.

0:21.7

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

0:23.1

So I'm a marriage and family therapist.

0:25.1

I've been doing this for a little over a decade and I have a group practice called

0:29.0

Constellation Therapy in Fremont, the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle.

0:32.7

Yeah.

0:33.0

And we were talking before recording that you're in the same building as Anthony Pennett's group practice,

0:39.0

which is where my brother's kid, Alina, Alina Honda, is an intern there. Alina works for the podcast,

0:46.4

so you're in a building of a lot of helpers, a lot of family therapists. Absolutely, absolutely.

0:53.5

Yeah, a lot of what our practice focuses on,

0:55.6

and it's couples therapy, and we have a special focus on infidelity and infidelity recovery. And so

1:01.4

a big thing right now in the kind of invidality recovery world is how you navigate these kind of

1:07.5

AI relationships and how AI kind of enters into, you know, marriages and

1:13.4

romantic relationships and how you deal with that as a therapist. Yeah. Interesting. I could

1:18.2

imagine how AI could threaten relationships in a variety of ways, including infidelity. But

1:24.4

what specifically have you seen? Yeah. Well, there's a lot of, obviously, everyone's aware of the fact of AI's explosion, right?

1:33.2

You know, in popularity and in, you know, use by the general population.

1:38.7

So, you know, over 50% of people use AI every day, right?

1:42.3

And AI chatbots especially are, you know, forms of emotional

1:47.3

validation, reinforcement for people. So a lot of folks are developing, you know, these kind of

1:54.1

pseudo-romantic emotional bonds with their chatbot or, you know, language learning, a large

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