Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Preet is out this week, so I'm joined by a very special guest,

Nita Farahani. Nita is a professor of law and philosophy at Duke Law School and a leading expert

on the ethical and legal implications of emerging technologies. She's also a fellow cafe contributor.

Nita and I discussed the interplay between artificial intelligence and the law,

the state of AI regulation in our country, and President Trump's plans for AI.

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or stay tuned.substack.com. Now, on to the show. In my view, Congress has not always been

as forward-leaning as it should be on new technology issues.

I mean, I think that might be because when email first came out, there were probably

members of Congress who didn't use it, right?

Who had their staff come in and read them emails.

And so it seemed really sort of silly and new to them.

And there's some of that going on these days, too, I think,

although people are much more savvy in general.

But what do you wish policymakers would take into account

as they begin to think about AI and AI-related regulation?

Last fall, I taught, for the first time,

at Duke Law School, a class on AI Law and Policy.

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