AI, Energy and Climate: Power Prices, Data Centers and the Bipartisan PJM Agreement: Peter Fox-Penner

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Chris Cotnoir

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🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Increasing power prices are a hot topic in the United States. Last week the Trump administration, eight Democratic governors and five Republican governors announced a plan to protect households in mid-Atlantic and Midwestern states from paying more for electricity because of electricity demand from data centers. Join host David Sandalow as he talks with Peter Fox-Penner, a leading expert on electricity markets, to discuss the causes of power price increases, the role of data centers, the recent bipartisan agreement in the PJM region, and more. This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:23.1	Electricity prices are in the news. They've been rising sharply in some parts of the United States,
1:28.5	and at the same time, data centers were putting significant strains on some regional power grids.
1:34.6	The role of data centers in rising power prices has gotten lots of attention.
1:39.4	In fact, the topic is so hot that last Friday, the Trump administration in a bipartisan group of
1:44.9	13 governors from Mid-Atlantic and Midwestern states announced a plan to protect households
1:50.7	from paying more for electricity because of demand from data centers.
1:55.5	The agreement was striking for its bipartisanship, with eight Democratic and five Republican
2:00.0	governors joining, and also
2:02.0	for some of its substantive details. There's a lot to unpack here, and we're incredibly
2:07.7	fortunate to be joined today by one of the nation's leading experts on these topics, Peter Fox
2:12.4	Penner. It's actually tough to summarize Peter's wide-ranging career in business, government, and academia,
2:19.1	but among the highlights, he is a principal and the former longtime board chair at the Brattle
2:24.6	group, one of the nation's leading power sector consultancies. He serves in a senior role
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