Today on the Playbook podcast, divisions in the heart of the White House over the most important issue of our time, how and whether we regulate the rollout of AI.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessence taking his turn at the White House briefing room podium today with new

inflation stats coming and the Bidens are back again. This time it's Jill. Her new book is out next week

as you probably saw. Hello, I'm Jack Blanchard. Hey and I'm Dasha Burns. It is Thursday, May 28th.

How you doing, Dasha? I am good. Better than you, my friend. You're not underwater, but you almost were.

I'm a bit late to record the podcast this morning because I just spent the last half hour bailing water out of my basement.

If you've seen the videos of this ever, you'll know that I record this thing in my basement, which is unwise if your basement ever floods,

as I've just discovered. Well, you sprang into action. You're a conquering hero this morning. I went into full dad mode. I did not know I had it in me, but I was bailing out like a sinking ship metaphor. Nothing like a crisis to show you who you really are. Thank you. Exactly. It turns out I've got it in me. Let's talk about AI, because

great story on the Politico website that's just going up this morning about this big AI executive

order, Dash, we're expecting, I mean, not just expecting, we'd been told it was coming last week.

They had the event plan, the execs were coming in, like it was written. We got the leak of it,

published it, like, but it didn't come. It wasn't published. Trump pulled the plug at the very, very last minute. And the story we've got today is about the divisions of the heart of the White House over this. And it turns out, Desha, there's big factions, maybe not surprisingly, it's often the way, but we've got the juice on what they are. People who

think we should be going faster on regulation, people who think there shouldn't be any regulation,

people desperately trying to balance in the middle. It looks like a bit of a mess, to be honest.

Yeah, our colleagues, Dana Norozy and Sophia Kai did a fantastic job really laying out who and why.

And it explains why we did see that executive order

get pulled last week because the president has a number of folks in his year with different

opinions on this. You won't be surprised to learn that David Sacks, who I had on my podcast

the conversation several weeks ago, who is of the quote, let them cook mentality, meaning like, do not regulate,

let the companies do whatever they need to do to compete so that we can beat China.

He's on one end of the spectrum and a big reason why the president decided to pull back.

And on the other end of the spectrum, you have Pete Hegset, the defense secretary, and his deputy, who are

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