Hello, welcome to the first of two special year-end editions of the Apple Insider podcast.

I'm William Gallagher. I'm sponsors this week, our Masterclass and Ruler, and I'm joined by Wesley

Hiliard. Now, Wes, it's not as if

nothing has been happening this week. So before we go into the special part of the special,

I want to ask you about what I think is on your mind, the Apple AI team. You were talking about

it last week, and now you've published the definitive answer to what in the world's going

on with that team.

Right.

So it ended up being, like I said, a bit of a daunting task.

I ended up reaching 200 individuals and kind of had to close that tab of trying to gather names.

I was going to go to LinkedIn and find their origins and determine, you know,

exactly how skilled is this team and all of that?

Because the reporting around it is everybody's leaving catastrophe.

Nobody likes Apple anymore or whatever.

And then I find there are, you know, only four pages, three pages

worth of research papers with names listed. And I had reached 200 individuals. And there are many

more, of course. And yet, we're told there are only dozens. And I don't know how 200 and dozens are in the same category.

Maybe my methodology has a mistake in it, but I don't know who else these people are if they're not AI researchers at Apple.

So it was just all very interesting as an overview to get an idea.

Yeah, Apple's got a whole lot of people working on AI internally across

several teams. And Jan Andrea is not a sign that anything's changing internally as far as their

strategy goes. On-device AI is still the future. And it looks like we're barreling towards a very

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