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The Owen Jones Podcast

AI Bubble Will Cause CRASH - Professor Exposes Looming DISASTER

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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0:00.0

Are we heading for an economic crash, one, caused by the AI, artificial intelligence bubble?

0:08.0

Well, there's no better person to speak to because the vast majority of economists, I'm afraid

0:13.1

to say, did not see the 2008 financial crash coming. It was a massive shock to the vast majority

0:20.3

of the profession, as well as politicians.

0:22.9

There was an exception though.

0:24.7

And the exception is joining me today as Dr. Steve Keene, who is an incredible economist,

0:29.9

but also honorary professor at UCL and amongst his other hats, lots of other hats.

0:36.5

Great to see you, Professor Steve Keane, I should say.

0:39.1

How you doing?

0:40.0

Good to be back again. We've spoken once before. I went almost a decade ago, so it's good to be back in touch again. Oof, blind me. A lot has happened. I know I remember. Yeah, like, what's a great here for me, yeah, yeah. Let's start, because we'll talk about AI and a possible looming crash.

0:57.5

But you, as I've said, you predicted the 2008 financial crash.

1:01.9

Why did you see that coming?

1:04.5

And, you know, what was it you saw in advance that other people did not see?

1:10.1

Well, the fundamental thing I saw as the role of credit in causing birth booms and bust in capitalism.

1:15.7

And the reason the mainstream doesn't see this is that they have a model of banking, which is a

1:20.2

myth.

1:20.7

It's called loanable funds.

1:22.3

And what they pretend is that banks don't actually lend money.

1:26.3

Instead, what banks do is they act like intermediaries.

1:29.2

You probably know this joke. Most people don't get it. But I call the conventional model of banking

1:33.6

the Ashley Madison theory of banking. You get the reference? I don't know. I don't know if it

1:40.8

still exists, but it was a website that they'd married people, fuck other married people that they weren't actually married to. And so Ashley Madison didn't

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