AI Breakthroughs, AGI Risks, & The Future Of Thought: A Conversation With Dr. Bo Wen
Finding Genius Podcast
Richard Jacobs
4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 14 June 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Meet Dr. Bo Wen, a staff research scientist, AGI specialist, cloud architect, and tech lead in digital health at IBM. He’s joining us to discuss his perspective on the rapid evolution of AI – and what it could mean for the future of human communication…
With deep expertise in generative AI, human-AI interaction design, data orchestration, and computational analysis, Dr. Wen is pushing the boundaries of how we understand and apply large language models. His interdisciplinary background blends digital health, cognitive science, computational psychiatry, and physics, offering a rare and powerful lens on emerging AI systems.
Since joining IBM in 2016, Dr. Wen has played a key role in the company’s Healthcare and Life Sciences division, contributing to innovative projects involving wearables, IoT, and AI-driven health solutions. Prior to IBM, he earned his Ph.D. in Physics from the City University of New York and enjoyed a successful career as an experimental physicist.
In this conversation, we explore:
- How Dr. Wen foresaw the AI breakthrough nearly a decade ago
- The implications of AGI for communication, reasoning, and human-AI collaboration
- How large language models work.
- What AI needs to understand to predict words in sentences.
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| 0:16.5 | A real genius. |
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| 0:28.6 | Here come the geniuses. |
| 0:30.3 | This is the Finding Genius podcast with Richard Jacobs. |
| 0:37.5 | Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finan GeneGUS podcast. |
| 0:41.2 | My guest today is Bo Wen. |
| 0:42.8 | He's a staff research scientist and AGI, which is artificial general intelligence expert. |
| 0:48.1 | He's an inventor, a cloud architect, and a tech lead for digital health initiatives at |
| 0:52.7 | this company. |
| 0:53.1 | We're going to talk about what's called large language models, |
| 0:56.7 | which underlie chat GPT. |
| 0:58.7 | There's also reasoner modules with a separate topic. |
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