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This is CBS, I am the world. I'm John Bachelors. Ukraine conflict. Russians versus NATO.

And I welcome Patrick Tucker, the defense one technology editor, who introduces to a topic

that Patrick and I have been talking on and off for years. This is robots, not just ordinary

robots, killer robots. Or in this case, robots shaped to destroy main battle tanks, much

in the news as headed to Ukraine. A very good evening to you, Patrick. The success

of the javelin man launched anti-tank missile early in the Ukraine conflict has led to what

I would say is anti-tank envy on the part of the Russian forces. What is it there

up to about the Abrams and leopard? What are we learning? Good evening to you.

Good evening. So what happened was at the end of last month the metri was frozen. He's

a former head of the Russian space corporation, Roscosmos. He now leads a kind of, it's

a consultancy called the Royal Wolves at Works with the Russian Government, basically finding

technology solutions and advancing them to the Russian government. He has said that his

company is going to develop a version of their ground reconnaissance robot. It's called

the Marker Ground reconnaissance robot, outfooted with arms. He says that he on his mind is

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