Welcome everyone to this podcast.

Today we have with us Mr. Sriram Narayan, the author of Agile IT Ock Design.

Welcome, Srirram.

Thanks for having me, Vinod.

So Sriram, before we start off, could you tell us about the genesis of this book?

What prompted you to write about this topic?

I've been consulting for a while now and what I have found is that mostly when we talk about agility, we tend to focus on team level agility. So getting our engineering techniques

right, getting our delivery processes right. And they are all important and essential.

But when it comes to overall IT responsiveness, when it comes to reputation of IT in the eyes of the business I have found

that team level agility by itself is not enough we need something more and that's

what I call as organizational agility and one way to look at it is you know you should we start off

by doing say scrum and if an organization chooses to go on the agile transformation

journey it can start off doing scrum and the level of teams and when that is

done right yes scrum will take you to UAT.

But it won't take you to production because for that you need to get IT ops involved.

And that's where DevOps and continuous delivery come in. So that's like the next stage in the progression towards agility.

But DevOps itself, when done right, is not just about automation and deployment pipelines

and so on.

It's actually about a bit of reorganization because IT operations people and developers need to

work as part of one single build it and run it team.

And so it is often beyond the scope of individual managers to bring about this sort of reorganization.

And that is still in my mind only the second step towards overall IT and business agility.

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