Hi, everybody, Cheryl Ackison here. Welcome to another edition of Full Measure After

Hours. Today, America's Crime Wave and Soft on Crime Policies.

This week on Full Measure, that Sunday April 24, I'm going to tackle America's Crime Wave.

My first question in researching the story was, is it real or, as some critics have suggested,

is it simply the fabrication of conservative critics looking for political advantage?

Well, you will see in the story that I do on Sunday that Democrats I interviewed agreed

it is a real phenomenon, this crime wave. But maybe a bigger question is what's causing

it? Some say that it's soft on crime policies and the so-called reform prosecutors, which

I learned a lot about in researching the story. I found out how many of these reform prosecutors

there are, where they are, what their philosophy is, who's funding them. It's a very real phenomenon.

You'll see all of that in the cover story. But for this podcast, you'll hear from two

people I interviewed for the report. First, under Sheriff Cory Brown of Monroe County,

Rochester, New York, where Rochester recently said an all-time record for murders. Then

we'll hear from civil rights advocate Robert Woodson, who says the answers to the rampant

crime in America's black community has to come from within. Some insight he had I didn't

expect to hear. First, Rochester, under Sheriff Cory Brown.

So, you've worked in the city, Rochester, and law enforcement, and now in the county.

For people who don't know much about the texture of crime in this area, what is it like

historically? And I'm just talking about an overview.

Sure. So, you know, when I first started my career in the early, or mid-90s, a violent

crime was higher. Murders were higher. And then I think in the early 2000s, murder got

down to 24. I believe was one of our yearly highs in like 2006, 2007. And then this year

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