What is a woman? Can you tell me that? Progressive women tell me that they find it difficult

to reconcile their feminism with transgender rights. It's the word woman no longer means

woman and it means anyone who identifies as a woman, then you are in really dangerous

territory. At the end of the day feminism is about choice and embracing the diversity

of womanhood and there is more than one way to be a woman. We're all on the same team

here, you know, whether you're trans, gender non-conforming, cis, we all have these expectations

and these limits and constraints because of people's obsession with the binary and how

we're all supposed to live our lives.

It's the argument I'm Jane Kostin and this is the second episode in our three part series

on where the feminist movement goes after dives. Earlier this summer, Berkeley law professor

Kiara Bridges set in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing about the future of abortion

rights. She was questioned by Senator Josh Holly who moved the conversation away from

the right to access abortion to semantics.

You've referred to people with a capacity for pregnancy. Would that be women?

Many women, cis women, have the capacity for pregnancy. Many cis women do not have the

capacity for pregnancy. There are also trans men who are capable of pregnancy as well as

non-binary people who are capable of pregnancy.

So this isn't really a women's rights issue.

We can recognize that this impacts women while also recognizing that it impacts other

groups. Those things are not mutually exclusive of Senator Holly.

Now Josh Holly is Josh Holly. But in the wake of the adopt decision, he hasn't been the

only one focusing on the language we use to talk about reproductive rights. I've also

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