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🗓️ 26 February 2020
⏱️ 40 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Judd Devermont, director of the Africa Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a former senior analyst in the intelligence community. Devermont discusses areas of instability on the continent and the areas where the U.S. has an opportunity to pursue national interests. He reviews areas of progress and setbacks in governance and security, and explains why he believes there has been a ‘democratization of leadership’ in Africa. Devermont also reviews Chinese and Russian investments and operations on the continent, and explains why they each have significant long-term implications for U.S. security.
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0:18.3 | So how many countries in Sub-Saharan Africa? |
0:20.3 | 49. |
0:21.3 | So how is it possible to keep up? |
0:23.3 | I've had the fortune of working first West African issues and then I moved to East African |
0:28.9 | and Central African. |
0:29.9 | So I've sort of moved around enough and then my academic was on Southern. |
0:34.5 | But you have to go into these meetings and present to policymakers, real insights on these |
0:40.0 | countries that they have worked and traveled to together. |
0:42.4 | So it's a life-long challenge. |
0:48.8 | The way that I think about Africa right now is in three ways. |
0:53.3 | First, the future is African, demographically. |
0:56.6 | The continent will double in size. |
0:58.2 | It will go from 1.2 billion people to 2.4 billion people by 2050. |
1:04.0 | That means a quarter of the world's population will be African. |
1:07.2 | And so every global problem is going to have an African dimension to it. |
1:14.8 | Two, Africa's problems and opportunities don't stop at the water's edge. |
1:18.8 | What happens in Africa changes the way the world works. |
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