I am going to keep this intro short and sweet and get right to the point and right to the conversation

that you're here to listen to. First, very quickly, if you don't already know, you are listening to

the Fuck It Podcast. And I am Caroline, your disorganized, haphazard host. And I am Caroline, your disorganized haphazard host.

And I am about to play for you my long and wonderful conversation that I had with Africa

Brooke.

She is currently very well known as the author of a viral open letter titled Why I'm Leaving the Cult of Wokeness.

And we're going to get into the work that she does and what led her to her current way of looking at things and what experiences she's had and how her work ties in with what many of us refer to

as cancel culture, but we also talk about why the term cancel culture is maybe not the best way

of describing what's going on for many different reasons. So I really hope you enjoy. I'm just going to get right to it because it's a

nice, long conversation. And I will talk to you briefly in the middle of the conversation and at the

end. But other than that, enjoy my conversation with Africa.

And I'm just going to welcome you to the podcast as if we have not been speaking,

which is always the most awkward part of the whole thing.

Oh, hi. Good to see you here.

We have not been talking at all. Welcome to the podcast, Africa. I'm so, so, so excited to talk to you. Yes, yes. Thank you so much. I'm so glad that we've been able to do this, actually. And I think it's happening at just the right time.

And I say that because it's, you know, obviously we're coming towards the end of the year.

But I think just based on some of the topics that we're going to be touching on from what I know,

it's just, yeah, I think it's happening at just the right time.

And I'm just so thrilled to sit

with you. I mean, you're hilarious. We've been laughing already and we haven't even started.

Oh, my gosh. Yes. Everyone, you know, I let people know yesterday on Instagram and they were like,

what? You're talking to Africa? Like, just so excited. So I can't wait.

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