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The Lawfare Podcast

Afghanistan Six Months After the Taliban Takeover

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🗓️ 1 February 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Nearly six months have passed since the Taliban’s sudden takeover of Afghanistan. As the country faces down a failing economy and looming humanitarian catastrophe, the new Taliban regime is still struggling with what it means to govern, both internally within the country and externally in its relations with the broader international community.

To get a sense of the state of play in Afghanistan, Scott R. Anderson sat down with a panel of experts: Laurel Miller, director of the International Crisis Group’s Asia Program; Andrew Watkins, a senior expert on Afghanistan at the U.S. Institute of Peace; and Obaidullah Baheer, a lecturer at the American University in Afghanistan and a visiting scholar at The New School. They talked about the Taliban's approach to governing, its changing relationships with the outside world and what it all means for Afghanistan's future.

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:33.9

They have long said that they believe themselves to be the most popular social movement, political,

0:42.9

sort of power, political force in Afghanistan.

0:47.9

I have never been able to ascertain whether they actually truly believe that about their

0:53.5

own popularity, believe their own narrative in that regard.

0:57.7

They haven't seemed as yet willing to test that proposition, beginning to develop some

1:03.3

mechanisms and processes of governance that would test that.

1:08.3

I think are a question for the future and it's difficult to see how they can develop

1:14.9

domestic legitimacy in a really deep sense without some kind of testing of that.

1:20.3

These to me are the most fundamental questions and more fundamentally important than whether

1:25.7

outside powers approve of the policies and practices and personnel of the government

1:33.1

of Afghanistan.

1:35.2

I'm Scott Arnerson and this is the LawFair podcast for February 1st, 2022.

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Nearly six months have passed since the Taliban's sudden takeover of Afghanistan and as the

1:45.9

country faces down a failing economy and looming humanitarian catastrophe, the new Taliban

1:51.3

regime is still struggling with what it means to govern, both internally within the country

1:56.0

and externally in its relations with the broader international community.

2:00.3

To get a sense of the state of play in Afghanistan, I sat down with a panel of experts, Laurel

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