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Hello and welcome to News Hour from the BBC World Service coming live from London. This is Owen Bennett

Jones. When the Americans pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021, many in Pakistan's security establishment gleefully celebrated what they considered a victory.

Their sustained support for the Afghan Taliban over the years meant they now had reliable allies in government in Kabul.

Five years on, it looks very different. Over the last couple of

weeks, there's been fighting between the Afghan Taliban forces from the government there and the

Pakistan army. There is an attempt to calm the situation down, with delegations from the two

countries gathering today in the Qatari capital Doha.

But why are they fighting in the first place?

Talat Asain is an independent Pakistani journalist.

This is fighting on the border because border has become a banned through which terrorism is being sent into Pakistan.

The listeners can go back to the Doha agreement in 2020 under which the American

and allied troops withdrew from Afghanistan. And part of the Doha agreement states very clearly

that Taliban have to make sure that their territory is not used by foreign groups or any terrorist

groups. Now, that has not been happening.

2024 UN report tells you that there's a deepening cooperation between the terror groups,

including some of those that used to operate in Pakistan, but were hammered out,

using a foreign territory. And these attacks have really quadrupled in the last five years. Pakistan has lost

about 4,000 security personnel defending its territory. There have been no less than 10,000 terrorist

attacks inside Pakistan, 90% of which came from Afghanistan. So I think Pakistan is saying

enough is enough. We are knocking out

the infrastructure that supports these terrorist groups. So just to spell this out, the Pakistan

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