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🗓️ 25 March 2025
⏱️ 121 minutes
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My guest this episode is writer, scholar, teacher, and astrologer, RONNIE PONTIAC. I've been impressed and informed by Ronnie's esoteric work for awhile now, and finally, we got to have our first conversation. And it's a profound one...
We talk about the need for a spiritual path in our moment, and how the alternative is... well, quite grim. We talk about how spirituality can lead us into a path of hatred and personal gain. We talk about my suspicion about astrology, how I think it works, how I think it does’t work, why so much of it is wrong (and why Ronnie is so often right!). And there's so much more on this episode (Including my extended intro on the esoteric aim of being a Friend To Humanity.)
Ronnie was a key figure at the Philosophical Research Society founded in 1934 by Manly Palmer Hall. The PRS is still around, and promotes, teaches, and offers research opportunities into the esoteric & philosophical of all societies; with the values of freedom, community, objective study, and inclusiveness at its core. He's the author most recently of American Metaphysical Religion: Esoteric and Mystical Traditions of the New World. His forthcoming book, which can preorder now, is The Rosicrucian Counterculture: The Origins and Influence of the Invisible Society.
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0:00.0 | We could say that human beings have a tendency to turn to magic or to spirituality when life is throwing them difficult challenges. |
0:10.6 | And some of us react by hate, and we do find magic in hate. |
0:16.1 | And some of us react in love, and we find magic in love and we're able to to bring great change to |
0:22.8 | our own lives. |
0:24.4 | Hello, friends. |
0:25.4 | This is Against Everyone with Connor Abee, and that was Ronnie Pontiac, my guest for |
0:29.9 | this episode. |
0:31.1 | He's an esoteric writer, teacher, scholar, and astrologer. |
0:35.9 | And we talk about why we need a spiritual path now more than ever. |
0:39.9 | I'm going to start the show by talking a little about the necessity, and it is a spiritual necessity, |
0:46.8 | of being a friend to humanity, and what that means and how it stands in opposition to usual |
0:53.3 | ideas of the occult and esotericism. |
0:56.5 | First, though, friends, I want to say at the top here, |
0:59.7 | I always struggle with the fact that tens of thousands of people listen to the show, |
1:04.7 | millions of downloads since I started seven years ago, |
1:07.5 | but that's so few, less than a thousand people support the show on Patreon. |
1:12.5 | Patreon.com forward slash Connor Beep is where you can go to support the show. I think people know |
1:17.5 | the show is respected, that it has a great reach, and I also think that that leads people to |
1:23.5 | overestimate the support the show receives. I know this show has value to you as a listener, |
1:29.8 | so please do take a moment and support the show on Patreon now. If you feel completely unable |
1:36.1 | financially to do that, you can always support it in a way by hitting the follow button on Spotify |
1:41.3 | or subscribe on Apple Podcasts that really does make a difference |
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