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🗓️ 5 March 2025
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This is the is the sixth and final episode in a series of episodes on How To Live in 2025, focusing on the thoughts, feelings, and actions we need to thrive, develop, create, and resist. In other words, tools that don’t merely deaden us in the frantic pursuit of survival, but that assist us in nourishing ourselves, each other, and the world, all together.
This time, the theme is READ
and my guest is ALEXANDER CHEE.
At the end of this episode, the exercise is a little different. First we do a reading for you, the listener, in the world and its anxieties and challeneges. We consider what they are, how to approach them, and how not to approach them. Then, Alex and I do a reading for what you could be reading... We draw a tarot card and let it give book recommendations.
Alex the author of three books, most recently his essay collection How To Write An Autobiographical Novel, and also two novels, Edinburgh and The Queen of the Night.
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0:00.0 | Hi, this is against everyone with Connor Habib. |
0:03.8 | Friends, reading is what got me here. |
0:06.8 | It's what got me resilient. |
0:08.2 | It's what got me more compassionate, more successful, happier, more thoughtful, more inventive, more durable. |
0:14.8 | So why would I or you or anyone who reads give reading less importance in the scheme of things when we've got |
0:23.0 | to consider how to live in this year of challenges. This is the sixth and final episode in a series |
0:29.6 | of episodes on how to live in 2025, focusing on the thoughts, feelings, and actions we need to thrive, |
0:36.4 | develop, create, and resist. In other words, we'll be |
0:39.9 | talking about tools that don't merely deaden us in the frantic pursuit of survival, but that |
0:45.3 | assist us in nourishing ourselves, each other, and the world all at once. At the end of each |
0:51.5 | of these episodes, there's an exercise that you can do that brings you |
0:55.8 | into the conversation and helps you carry its vitality forward. This time, the theme is |
1:02.7 | read, and my guest is author Alexander Chee. Alex is the author of three books, most recently |
1:10.0 | his essay collection, How to Write an |
1:11.9 | autobiographical novel, and also two novels, Edinburgh and the Queen of the Night. |
1:19.0 | Alex's essay, The Quirant, is about reading tarot, and it's great and completely relevant to |
1:24.4 | this episode, because we won't just be talking about reading books, but also reading tarot. There is a deep connection in the kinds of readings, reading books and |
1:35.7 | reading taros. While reading books, as well as reading tarot as profession, of course, |
1:41.8 | are increasingly regulated by political power. They still defy being |
1:45.9 | contained by the political. The refusal to simply be absorbed into politics, even though both |
1:52.9 | books and divination have political functions and sometimes political ambitions, set them in a space |
1:59.0 | that is beyond the demands of political life and maneuvers. |
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