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Against Everyone with Conner Habib

AEWCH 157: DANIEL POPPICK or THE WORLD IS ENDING, WRITE A POEM

Against Everyone with Conner Habib

Against Everyone With Conner Habib

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2021

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

I talk with poet and editor Daniel Poppick about conversation and the way poetry evades the loss of possibility.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is against everyone with Connor Habib, a podcast featuring my conversations with

0:04.6

countercultural figures and presenting complex, philosophical, spiritual, and political ideas in an

0:09.8

engaging and accessible way. Well, I'm going to get into the episode in a minute, but I want to

0:16.2

start with Owen Barfield. Owen Barfield might be someone that you don't know,

0:21.3

but you do know Owen Barfield's friends,

0:24.7

J.R. Art Hoken, and C.S. Lewis.

0:28.6

Barfield was part of this group called The Inklings,

0:32.5

along with Charles Williams.

0:34.6

These are sort of the core members of this group,

0:37.5

and they would meet and discuss literature and philosophy and what was on their minds.

0:42.7

They had a great influence on one another.

0:46.1

Barfield, he was a devotee of Anthroposophy and Rudolf Steiner,

0:53.0

and as a result, Rudolf Schneider ended up permeating

0:56.2

in a lot of the works of the other inclings, or Rudolf Steiner's thought, and esoteric Christianity.

1:01.7

I love Owen Barfield, and maybe one day I'll do a whole episode just about Owen Barfield.

1:09.6

But mostly, I want to bring up something

1:12.3

he said about language once. He was a pretty great philosopher. He also wrote about poetry

1:17.5

and language often. But the thing he said about language that really strikes me, and I'm going to

1:26.6

get it wrong, I think I can get the quote wrong, but I'm going to get it wrong, I think I can

1:28.1

get the quote wrong, but I'm going to say it in a way that is, I hope, understandable to everybody

1:32.1

without the context, which is that there's a tension between subjective experience and exact

1:39.7

language. In other words, when you want to talk about your experience, but you need to communicate

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