Love means I need to be patient right now. I need to be kind. I need to long suffer, maybe, in some

instances. That's why we want to stay in the ring with one another. A soft answer turns away

wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. How true is that in marriage? There were moments where it felt

like it was just going to be darkness forever. It just kind of felt like disconnect. That's just where we

were. If we're a healthy marriage, get through this difficulty. You want the same thing. What could it be like to have your communication in a healthy place?

I feel like God's giving me wisdom and clarity on being able to have those, like ignore the

feelings or the feeling's not going to take control of the wheel right now.

We don't say the word divorce and you shouldn't say the word divorce. That shouldn't be thrown

around. It's not an option. There's more going on than just the conflict that you see in front of your face.

The Lord is faithfully at work in your hearts, in your marriage, and he's using it to sanctify you.

Marriage is not just the boat to happiness. Like, that is not the goal of marriage.

How do we break out of these ruts? You know, when you feel like hope is lost, you feel like you've tried everything. What are some ideas to get us out of those patterns?

All right. I was going to ask, what's the most difficult season you think we've ever been through as a couple?

Probably your heart surgery, I would say, was probably the most difficult. But at the same

time, we were pretty young and naive. So I don't know that we understood the whole weight of

that situation when you had heart surgery in another country. Fierce Marriage book, check it out

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There you go. We did have some post-surgery when we came home.

That was, there was a lot. You were kind of a different person after all that medicine.

And I feel like, I don't know, our communication was rough. We had different ideals.

We were just on, I don't know, it felt we were just kind of distant.

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