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Moral Maze

Adults, Children and Power

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Labour has confirmed that it plans to allow 16 and 17 year-olds to vote in elections, in line with Scotland and Wales. The idea, they say, is to empower younger people by engaging them in the democratic process. Some older members of the electorate might raise the question of whether people under 18 have the maturity to vote. It would be no surprise to hear that argument, we were all children once and we know that adults think they’re superior.

It’s nearly fifty years since the concept of “childism” was first coined by psychiatrists, to describe the automatic assumption of superiority of any adult over any child. Now, perhaps, childism is the last permissible prejudice. Discrimination that would seem shocking if applied to any other group is exercised against children and regarded as quite appropriate. Children’s freedom is constantly restricted and their views are generally dismissed. They’re told what to do, what to eat, what to wear, even what to say. Is this just responsible parenting or does it verge on oppression?

Children’s minds aren’t fully developed, and they’re less well equipped to make smart decisions. They also need limits and it’s surely the job of adults to impose them, but where should the line be drawn? We should keep children safe, of course, but after that… is it better to be strict or to allow them maximum autonomy? What’s the moral basis on which we make that judgement?

Attitudes have changed over the decades. We’ve moved on from the axiom that “children should be seen and not heard.” A survey out last week suggested that parents in Britain place less importance on instilling obedience in children than parents in most other countries. But maybe a little obedience would be no bad thing?

What’s the moral case for exercising power over children and young people?

Presenter: Michael Buerk Producer: Jonathan Hallewell Editor: Tim Pemberton

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

Good evening. If Labour win the next election, they say they'll give children yet to sit their GCSEs the vote.

0:11.8

They intend to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 to, as they put it, empower young people and engage them in politics.

0:18.6

Their opponents say the motives more cynical,

0:21.6

the overwhelming and growing majority of teenagers, after all, a left wing.

0:26.9

How do you judge when people are old enough to choose a government, whether those too young

0:31.1

to leave education, get married, buy cigarettes, alcohol or fireworks should have a vote?

0:37.3

You can pay tax, though though at 16, and we're

0:39.3

almost the only developed country where you can join the army at that age. How do you define

0:44.3

maturity? Neuroscientists say brain development and behaviour don't generally stabilise until

0:50.8

the mid-20s or even later. There's a wider question here about the power relationship between adults and children.

0:57.8

Recent surveys have shown a marked generational shift in attitudes,

1:01.7

with much less emphasis on children's obedience of them being seen but not heard.

1:07.6

Not far enough, some say, and talk of childism as a prejudice akin to racism, the automatic

1:13.4

presumption of the superiority of every adult to every child, where adults needs, desires

1:19.4

and hopes automatically take precedence.

1:22.7

But many still say children need discipline and boundaries, And the fact that 57% of British students

1:28.8

tell surveys they're experiencing current mental health issues is at least partly due perhaps

1:34.2

to the lack of them. Adults and children, the vote, power and autonomy. Our moral maze tonight.

1:39.7

The panel, Matthew Taylor, chief executive of the NHS Confederation, Ash Sarka from the Navarra Media Group,

1:45.4

the historian Tim Stanley,

1:47.0

and the priest, turbulent in his day,

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