Hello, guys. Welcome back to Middle Ground. Today, it is finally my turn. Caroline took the last two episodes, and this week it is my turn. I am actually not on my own, though. Matt has joined me.

I mean, I can leave if you'd like. Uh, no, I'm glad you're here.

I was going to do a solo episode and then Matt walked in with a second mic that I forgot we had and said,

look, we have another mic. To be totally fair, we've tried to use this other mic before. It's never

worked. Yeah. Well, we have two of the same

kind of microphones. And for some reason, when we would plug them in, it wouldn't recognize one.

And we tried it tonight. And success. It worked. And we are oddly, we're not like audio experts. We have

no idea what we're doing. And so if you ever are like, how did they get this podcast? How did they do all this?

Know that Matt's a recording into a mic that's stacked on a stack of plant books.

Yeah. That's because they keep me nice and isolated.

The ultimate plant stand. Yeah. Or not plant, Mike stand. What am I saying?

Mike stand, I think was the word. I think you nailed it. I said plant stand. Oh yeah. Yeah. Or not plant, mic stand. What am I saying? Mike stand, I think, was the word.

I think you nailed it.

I said plant stand.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but then you said Mike stand.

Yeah, Mike Stan was correct.

I meant plant stand was very wrong.

True.

Okay, guys.

Let me focus here.

So Caroline had the podcast on our own last week because we have been hit by the vid

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