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The Bulwark Podcast

Adam Serwer and Bobby Pulido: MAGA Got Proven Wrong

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The mass deportation operation was supposed to be about the manly men pulling out all the stops in defense of Western civilization, which they claim is being brought down by brown and black immigrants. But it is the multi-racial, multi-faith people of Minneapolis who are fighting—at the risk of their own lives—for the cause of community, neighborhoodism, and social cohesion. And that is not the same social cohesion of JD Vance, who thinks white people need to live next door to other white people. Meanwhile, MAGA’s dreams that Trump had flipped Hispanic voters sure doesn’t seem to be the case in the Rio Grande Valley, where people are feeling disrespected by ICE and not free to be themselves. Plus, the current state of Second Amendment politics, and some much-needed ridicule of Stephen Miller.

The Atlantic's Adam Serwer and Texas-15 congressional candidate Bobby Pulido join Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, big news. We are going back on the road. We wanted to be with y'all.

0:05.5

Me and Sarah wanted to hug you. JV.L. wanted to greet you from a polite distance.

0:10.7

So we're planning our spring bulwark tour, and we demanded to kick off with our friends in the Twin Cities.

0:17.9

So we'll be there February 19th. I guess it probably won't be very spring in

0:22.4

the Twin Cities, February 19th, but that's okay. We're going to be there for a one-night show.

0:28.0

Details are to come on that. Then after that in March, we're headed to Texas. We're going to me in

0:33.6

Dallas on March 18th and Austin on March 19th. Minnesota tickets are going on sale Friday. The Texas shows will go on sale next week. Watch your inboxes. Thebillwork.com slash events for more. Go to the bulwark.com slash events. If you are not from Minnesota, by the way, come, come hang with us. It's going to be a big venue.

0:56.8

We're going to plan some other stuff February 19th. Hope to see you all there.

1:09.9

Hello, welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

1:11.7

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

1:12.5

We've got a double header for you today.

1:14.3

Up in segment two is Bobby Polito, who's running for Congress in South Texas.

1:19.0

Super interesting guy I met last week.

1:20.4

I'm excited to talk to him about immigration and what the hell the Democrats are going to do

1:24.8

about their Hispanic voter problem or even if they have one anymore. So stick around for that. But first, delighted welcome back to the show,

1:31.5

staff writer at the Atlantic. He was in Minneapolis last week to report on ordinary

1:36.4

Minnesotans who mobilized to resist the occupation of their city. It's Adam Sarwar. What's up,

1:40.9

man? Hey, how's it going? I guess I'd start here. Could you sum up the administration's actions in Minnesota in five words? An attack on an American city? I don't know if that... Say the line, Adam. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to... I refuse to do it. I refuse to do it. I want to give you the Bart Simpson. It's funny that that's exactly where you were going and I didn't even get it.

2:01.4

Anyway, yes, you know, I think you'd have to say the cruelty is the point there. I mean,

2:05.1

you just look at how people are talking about, you know, the two Minneapolis-St. Paul residents who were killed by the Border Patrol and basically seeking to unperson them in order to justify the unjustifiable, which is, you know,

2:20.1

the taking of the lives of people who pose no threat to anyone and who were, you know,

2:25.5

when they were killed in the process of trying to protect or aid the people around them.

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