Ted Audio Collective.

I left just in awe of the kind of rigor that they brought to a joke that would be an absolute throwaway moment

in a television show that nobody would notice.

It was just like, it's wallpaper. I love that.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

For 19 years, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, Adam Moss talks about what he learned about the creative process from talking

to artists.

I mean, I am kind of intrinsically a worshipper of creative people. I just really admire it.

How does something come from nothing? How do creators actually create? These are the questions Adam

Moss has long been asking. They also happen to be some of the questions that I try to

investigate with every guest on every episode of this podcast. How did you

become you and how did you make that?

Adam Moss is the former editor of New York magazine and before that he was the editor of the

New York Times magazine. He has left an indelible mark on those magazines and on the many

others he's worked on. Adam Moss is also an artist. He came late to the fine arts and

he's a little reluctant to call himself an artist

We're going to talk all about that and how he wrote and created his brand new book

The Work of Art,

How Something Comes From Nothing.

Adam Moss, welcome to Design Matters.

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