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To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Adam Kinzinger: Trump Tales a Wrecking Ball to the White House

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9719 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Sykes and Adam Kinzinger take stock of another chaotic week in American politics, from Donald Trump’s demand for $230 million in taxpayer money and his controversial White House renovations, to Speaker Mike Johnson’s embrace of Trump’s culture-war theatrics. They also discuss the rise of the “No Kings” movement, the corporate backlash over Jimmy Kimmel’s firing, and what it all says about the state of the GOP. Plus, Kinzinger offers a bold idea for ending the war in Ukraine

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0:00.0

Oh, wow, it's another day.

0:11.6

Welcome to the To the Contrary podcast.

0:15.0

And on these days, where you go, wow, what a day.

0:17.9

I always want to talk to my good friend, Adam Kinziger.

0:20.0

How are you, sir?

0:26.6

Buddy, it is great to be with you. Just wonderful. Yeah, I'm great. I'm fantastic. Thank you for asking.

0:37.5

All right. I'm sorry to start every podcast the same way, but where should we begin here? Can we just talk about the fact that the President of the United States is demanding the taxpayers right out of check for $230 million? I mean, it's like, have we gotten so numbed about just the open corruption,

0:43.4

the president saying, and we'll have to be approved by his own lackeys who will have to

0:48.1

decide, yes, Mr. President, we're going to give you $230 million as compensation for all the

0:54.0

terrible things that

0:54.9

Department of Justice did do.

0:58.4

Unbelievable.

0:59.8

He's going to get the money, right?

1:01.7

I think so.

1:02.5

I mean, unless he just, I mean, literally, unless he decides no, because he's made enough

1:06.4

on his other corruption.

1:07.3

But Speaker Johnson today was basically like, I forget what he said,

1:13.1

but he had some outrageous comment about it and, you know, how he's been mistreated. And the Republicans

1:19.0

won't, I mean, they're not going to do anything to stop this. You know it. Even our so-called,

1:22.7

you know, the two people that put out tweets every now and again that are good, you know, Don Bacon and some others, they're not going to do anything to stop it. And I mean, it's just it's, it's, and let's think about this on top of. So it's not that there was no independent finding that Donald Trump was wronged, right? Donald Trump's prosecution was on track. Then he became president and forced

1:46.6

the Department of Justice to drop the case. So it's, it wasn't dropped because, you know,

1:51.4

there was some finding that he was wronged. So he basically is creating his own scenario. I mean,

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