Adam Kinzinger: Don't Feed the Dictator

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The Bulwark

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🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Russia is losing the war in Ukraine. More than 1 million Russian troops have been killed or injured, and it's been estimated that it would take another four years and 2 million more soldiers for Putin to conquer the Donbas region. So no, Ben Shapiro, getting Ukraine to sacrifice the region in return for some kind of security guarantee would not be a "masterstroke" for Trump. Meanwhile, red state governors sending National Guard troops to D.C. are disrupting the lives and families of those troops at back-to-school time—just to please Daddy Trump. Plus, the MAGA socialism around Intel, Dems should advise foreign countries to think twice about doing corrupt deals with Trump, and Hegseth's pull-ups don't cut it in the alpha male world he thinks he's making.

Adam Kinzinger joins Tim Miller.
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0:54.3	Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back, one of our Green Jacket guests. He's a former Republican congressman from Illinois, he's retired Air National Guard pilot, the founder of Country First. And you can find him on Substack. It's Adam Kinsinger. What's up, man? Hey, what's going on? Good to be with you, man. It is good to hang with you. I'm sorry to start with some uncomfortable news, though, but I do think we need to talk about it. I saw a breaking report from Sparks N123. It said
1:02.9	this. The FBI sent an official referral to the Justice Department seeking a grand jury to
1:08.8	indict Adam Kinsinger. He has no explanation for the 108 million he acquired when he joined the January 6th committee.
1:15.5	I'm wondering if you have an official statement on this.
1:17.4	Have you heard anything from the grand jury?
1:19.1	Listen, man, I saw that yesterday.
1:21.4	And here's the best part about it is like underneath that comment.
1:25.1	There are people that are like, it's about time, you know, good.
1:29.7	I've always wondered.
1:31.0	And I'm like, dude, do you guys really believe this?
1:33.6	So, no, I haven't received anything to the grand jury.
1:36.7	And you know what, Tim, if I had $108 million, I would be in an island right now.
1:41.8	I believe in American politics, but $108 million would allow me to walk away from it. And I might do that. I was going to say the thing that pissed me up. And at first I was sad for you and for your family and for a young child that you might be going to jail. But after that, I was pissed. I was like, why didn't he fly me private to Chicago for a live show? I was like, wait, I haven't been invited on any jets.
2:03.8	You know, I want some of this.
2:05.5	And here's the best thing I think about it.
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