Adam Carolla, thanks for talking to Reason.

My pleasure, Nick.

Let's start this interview talking about Katie Couric.

Recently, you went to town on her.

After she talked, she was interviewing Gavin Newsom, the wonderful, fresh-smelling governor

of California, ex-pres president of the United States,

and maybe, yeah.

She was great.

She was like, Gavin, is your dick too big for porn?

She literally said, like, you may have a Zoolander problem, not meaning you might be so

fucking stupid.

Right.

You won't be able to find your way out of your car door,

out of your car to the election booth, but that you're too good looking for politics.

Why did that set you off? Because, okay, here's what I sort of realized with journalism.

There's this sad, tacit agreement, which is you can't ask tough questions or follow-up

questions because then that person would never come back, right?

And so that's, you know, Gavin Newsom did my show 13 years ago, and he's never come back

because I asked follow-ups, you know?

And you even had, I mean, that was not, not it was a tough interview but it was not a hostile

no it was not hustle at all I just kept asking yeah and so people don't do it now because

katy wants to get Gavin again down the road after he announces she's running for president but

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