Hello and

Francis Foster.

I'm Constantin Kitchen.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

We are delighted that our guest today is the founder of Colette,

Cleeliman. Welcome to Trigonometry.

Hi guys, thanks so much for having me.

Oh, it's an absolute pleasure.

This interview's been a while in the making,

and we've been trying to make it happen.

We're so excited.

The time difference is crazy.

It's Monday morning as we're recording this where you are.

It's Sunday, very late at night here. So you are just having your coffee. We've had to have some coffee to stay awake.

So it's all good. But so much to talk about. Listen, one of the things that we were really

interested to discuss with you is you talked in some of your previous interviews about

the fact that at Quilett, which is a fantastic publication I've

written for a number of times myself, you don't do the kind of this is what

happened today, here's a new story about that. Rather you take a step back and you look at some of the trends, some of the big things that are happening, the big ideas, the big debates and so on.

So as we sit here in the middle of August 2020,

what are some of the big things

that you see as having happened and potentially looking forward?

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