What do I do?

What do I do?

What do I say?

What do I say?

I've never been able to think my way in the right action.

I've always had to act my way in the right thinking.

I've had to physically disrupt my cycle.

And with that, that was seeking help for the first time

and getting to that place.

But I had been beaten into a state of willingness.

I'll show up six days a week.

I'll hobble in here.

Hi, I'm Mark Devine, and this is the Mark Devine show

where I explore what it means to be fearless

through the lens of the world's most inspirational

compassionate and resilient leaders.

My guests include notable folks from all walks of life,

motivational scientists, nutritional experts,

peace crusaders, and even comedians like today's guest.

In each episode, I distill the remarkable experience

of the guest into actionable insights

to help you create your most compassionate

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