Hi, it's Saturday. It's the Saturday show, and sometimes we bring you an appearance on another podcast where you can hear me talking to other people. I like those other people. And this week, those other people were Sonny Bunch and Peter Sutterman. They are two-thirds, but the two-thirds who joined me on the podcast across the movie aisle.

The idea was one of their regular members, a Washington Post critic, more to the left.

Sutherman's a libertarian, study bunch of self-identified conservative.

They do it for the dispatch.

I have had Sunny on the show.

I've been listening to that podcast for a while, and they had me on to talk about my

substack piece about

the pit, which my piece focused on the fact that the pit can get a little preachy, that there's

never been an asshole patient on the pit who wasn't white. There was one recently. It was pretty

yellow, but she was jaundiced. So we talked about that. We talked about Hollywood and we talked about messaging and over-the-top messaging and what people want and what people like.

I'm going to give you most of that conversation.

I'll hold a little bit back because you should check out the Across the Movie Isle podcast on your own.

The way to get there is in the show notes.

And I just beseech you to enjoy. Welcome back to this extra special bonus episode. It's a bonus bonus episode of Across the Movie Isle.

I'm your host Sunny Bunch.

I'm joined as always by Peter Souterman.

And we've got a very special guest today, Mike Peska of the Gist. He's got his podcasting superstar. We were just talking about the podcasting economy right before we started here. I feel like Mike's right at the top of it. He's got it all figured out. So we're going to take some lessons from him here today. But we, I mean, by top excited to have this chair. By top, you mean bleeding,

bleeding edge, right? Yeah, the bleeding edge. Mike, thanks for joining us. How are you? I'm the sentinel chicken of podcasting. Remember those when the avian flu was around? They put a chicken in a cage. And if it died, watch out for the flu. That's how I think of myself. That's cheery.

Peter, how are you?

I'm so happy to be talking about movies or television shows or such. That's how I think of myself. That's cheery. Peter, how are you?

I'm so happy to be talking about movies or television shows or sentinel chickens with friends.

Yeah.

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