Hello and welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left.

My name's Keir Milbin, and I'm joined as usual by my very dear friend Nadia Idle.

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And my other very dear friend, Jeremy Gilbert.

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And today we're discussing hobbies.

So friends, why are we discussing hobbies today?

I know I think this is a fantastic topic and it follows on directly from boredom because

it tells us about time and I think that's always really interesting when we're talking about progressive

politics and society and how we want to live, how people use what they consider to be

leisure time. And I'm specifically interested in whether capitalism starts to collapse or like,

what are the social and political forces that start to collapse and blur

the space between work and leisure and what that does to our understandings of hobbies. I also happen

to think that this is probably going to be one of the most gendered topic episodes we've done

because I think the topic of hobbies and free time is something that automatically

becomes one where you have to look at the position of women over history. And that's all really

interesting stuff. Yeah, I mean, hobbies are very much on my mind at the moment. You know,

I think we're going to be discussing whether podcasting is a hobby. We'll talk about that, I think.

At the moment, I'm keeping an eye on two football matches. I've played, as we record. Aston Villa are playing West Ham, and Tottenham are playing Nottingham Forest. Those are three teams who are below Leeds United. Watching Leeds United. Is that a hobby? That is something I've got to get my head around. I've got to squeeze this podcasting

because I'm playing a tabletop role-playing game over Zoom later on. So we are recording on a Sunday,

a traditional day of hobbies. So, you know, it's very much on my mind, I think. There's also

lots to talk about, I think, about hobbies because it's about leisure. You know, it's something

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