Hello and welcome to

Hello and welcome to ACFM, the home of the weird left.

My name's Keir Milbin, and I'm joined as usual by my very good friend Nadia Idle.

Hello.

And my other very good friend, Jeremy Gilbert.

Hello.

And today we're talking about the very tense issue of cleaning.

Why are we talking about cleaning again?

I can't quite remember, Jeremy?

Well, yeah, I got an email, we got an email from a listener Azara who suggested we do an episode

about cleaning and had an extremely interesting set of points and issues,

she suggested we get into around the topic of cleaning, so we decided to take up this idea.

It's really about cleaning as in the sense of house cleaning, like how cleaning and housework,

although obviously the concept of cleanliness raises all kinds of issues that we can get

into. But I think most listeners are already going to understand that just housework itself and

the notion of keeping the domestic space in a particular state of order obviously has a lot of

political and cultural implications that we're thinking about.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, what's great about this, and I'm not sure if our listener, Zahra, has any

Arabic heritage, but the word Zahra in Arabic also means to shine or to radiate. So I don't

know if this is like a happy coincidence, but definitely that sentiment

is in her name as well. Yeah, this is a really, really interesting topic. I'm really excited to

talk about it. Obviously, we always want to politicise these phenomena and kind of historicize.

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