Abraham Lincoln, the First American | Interview: Allen Guelzo
The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg
The Dispatch
4.7 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 17 June 2026
⏱️ 75 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention. |
| 0:18.0 | Can you digger? |
| 0:27.5 | Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. |
| 0:33.3 | Very excited about today's episode. |
| 0:35.0 | We've been thinking about doing this for a very long time, wanted to do this. |
| 0:38.5 | Every now and then, we take a thinker or historic person. |
| 0:42.7 | In this place, I think our guest would say he was both and just ask who they were. |
| 0:48.3 | Last time we did this, I think it was Hannah Arend. |
| 0:50.5 | Before that, it was Leo Strauss. |
| 0:51.9 | And today we're going to ask who was Abraham Lincoln. |
| 0:55.7 | And I actually don't think this is an exaggeration. We have the single best living person to answer |
| 1:05.0 | that question. I was just going over fan favorite Alan Gelzo, the most euphonious voice in podcasting. I was just going |
| 1:12.9 | over his website where the list of books and he is literally by a wide margin written more books |
| 1:22.3 | on Abraham Lincoln than I have read about Abraham Lincoln. And the more acclaimed ones are, and most recent is our ancient faith, |
| 1:31.7 | Lincoln Democracy in the American Experiment. |
| 1:34.2 | There's a book, Redeeming the Great Emancipator, Lincoln An Intimate Portrait, |
| 1:39.7 | Gettysburg, The Last Invasion, Fateful Lightning, |
| 1:44.0 | a collection of Lincoln speeches. |
| 1:45.8 | But I think the one that's most appropriate here is Lincoln, a very short introduction. |
| 1:51.6 | So with that, Alan Gelzo was a professor at the University of Florida. |
| 1:55.2 | Before that, he was at Princeton, wrote in the many of the things, been here several times, |
| 1:59.6 | just concluded a fantastic project |
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