About... Christian Nationalism (with Brian Recker)
Tell Me More with Nicole Walters
Dear Media
4.8 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
“The two things you're not supposed to talk about are politics and religion. But if you don't talk about those things, what are we even doing?”
Former evangelical pastor Brian Recker is here to share his lived experience with modern Christianity, the Christian Nationalism movement, and why maybe Hell isn’t what we thought it was.
Brian shares his experiences transitioning from a fundamentalist background to becoming an evangelical pastor, and the turning points he faced within the church, especially during the first election of Donald Trump.
We chat about the cost of linking faith with the fear of Hell and the necessity of engaging with marginalized communities like Jesus did. Brian explains why we should consider divesting from harmful systems and instead embrace a spirituality rooted in love and empathy rather than fear and exclusion.
This chat is not just for Christians but for anyone living today so don’t miss it, friend!
Grab Brian’s upcoming book, Hell Bent, at BrianRecker.com
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| 1:21.2 | Welcome to the Tell Me More podcast with Nicole Walters, the only podcast where I'm not seeking to make you think more like me, but to help you keep thinking for yourself. |
| 1:41.4 | Today's guest is someone who is no stranger to deep faith, big questions, and bold leadership. |
| 1:49.0 | Brian Recker was an evangelical pastor with over 20 years in ministry, and that's 20 years |
| 1:55.3 | clocking from the moment he was born, because when you are a pastor's kid, you start from the top. |
| 2:00.2 | And let me tell you, he is the |
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