About Being... a Music Industry Insider (Part 2)
Tell Me More with Nicole Walters
Dear Media
4.8 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
“ I gotta follow my heart this time. I can't get caught up in my ego. And I've been caught up in my ego for 15 years!”
This is Part 2 in our chat with seasoned Music Executive, Chris Anokute! Chris shares the dark sides of the music industry and why he decided to walk away after 20 years.
Chris and I chat about the ethical compromises people make for fame and money and the spiritual and moral awakening that followed his exit. He then shares how he fell into mentorship and why he isn't looking back.
Don’t miss Part 1 of this chat when Chris shares how he became a Music Industry Executive and Insider at such a young age.
Thanks for being here, friend! Find Chris on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/chrisanokute/ and slide into my DMs at Nicole Walters!
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
| 0:08.8 | Welcome to the Tell Me More podcast with Nicole Walters, |
| 0:12.2 | the only podcast where I'm not seeking to make you think more like me, |
| 0:16.5 | but to help you keep thinking for yourself. |
| 0:22.5 | Is that said a lot in the industry? |
| 0:24.2 | People say, I would have to sell my soul. |
| 0:26.4 | Is that a thing? |
| 0:27.2 | Yeah. |
| 0:27.7 | Do people sell their soul in order to make it in this industry? |
| 0:30.3 | I don't think they intentionally, I don't think they actually like sit down and make a prayer to demonic energy and sell their soul. |
| 0:38.3 | But I think they let go of the righteousness and they just get on that boat and let the boat take them wherever they need to go. |
| 0:48.5 | For fame. |
| 0:48.8 | Whoever is sailing that boat is like, listen, I'm on. |
| 0:52.6 | And they're like strap in. |
| 0:53.6 | For fame, for money, for attention. Wherever we need to go, I'm down for the ride. And I had one foot in the boat and one foot on the dock. And I got off the boat. How did you feel about that? Was there a loss? Was there a grief? Was there a mourning? You know what? I was wrestling. I was in the between. Like, oh my God, this is crazy. But Chris, you can never be that guy. |
| 1:17.8 | Like you never, and this is not to put anybody down and be judgmental. |
| 1:21.2 | Just different things for different people. |
| 1:21.9 | But it was just certain kinds of personalities that I was interacting with. And they were all the same people that I was idolizing. |
| 1:30.7 | It was almost like God said, be careful what you wish for. |
| 1:33.8 | They say don't meet your heroes. |
| 1:35.2 | Exactly. |
| 1:35.8 | Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it or, oh, that's what you want? |
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