Hi everyone, I'm Bridget Bergen from WNYC's Newsroom. My friend Brian is taking a little break today,

but he wanted me to let you know that a couple of weeks ago, he hosted a special program that

asked, what will abortion access look like after Roe is overturned, as it's likely to be?

He wanted to keep our sights set on the fact that abortions will continue whether or not it's a constitutionally protected right, and also that we've been here before.

In the time before Roe, there were networks of people, often clergy, as you'll hear, who helped women travel and secure abortions out of state.

And the guiding question is, we can't go back to before row,

so where are we going? So here's Brian's end of row national call-in special in its entirety.

From WNYC Studios, it's Brian Lair, a daily politics podcast. It's Friday, May 27th.

With me are Aaron Haynes, editor at large for the 19th, a news organization focusing on gender,

politics, and policy. If you don't know the 19th, it was founded in 2020 to coincide with

a centennial of the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote in this country. Of course,

the full name of the site is the 19th with an asterisk to acknowledge that at first, the vote

really only went to white women. Erin was previously with the Associated

Press as National Writer on Race and Ethnicity. Jessica Bruder is with us too. She's probably

best known as the author of Nomad Land, her book that was the basis of the movie that won the Best

Picture Oscar last year. She's now the author of a sweeping article

in the May issue of the Atlantic on the past, present, and yes, the future of abortion in America.

The article is called The Abortion Underground. Jessica and Aaron, thanks so much for joining

us tonight. Welcome to the program. Thanks so much. It's good to be

with you. Thank you. And listeners, just to be really clear as we open the phones to invite you to help

us report this story, this is not a debate tonight on abortion rights pro and con. Whatever your

opinion is, that's your opinion, and that's your right. But that's for another

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