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The Lawfare Podcast

Abigail Spanberger and Elissa Slotkin from CIA to Congress

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🗓️ 5 November 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Only twice in history have two women who served as CIA officers been elected to Congress. The first time was 2018, and the second was 2020—both of them featuring Abigail Spanberger and Elissa Slotkin. David Priess hosted an event for the Michael V. Hayden Center at George Mason University’s Schar School of Policy and Government, speaking with both of them about their careers, both in the intelligence community and in Congress. Abigail Spanberger represents Virginia's 7th congressional district and was a CIA operations officer from 2006 to 2014. Elissa Slotkin represents Michigan's 8th congressional district. She served as a CIA analyst, as well as a National Security Council staffer and Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs. They talked about joining CIA, their experiences there, leaving the intel world, how their CIA experiences help them as legislators, and a few pressing national security issues.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:32.6

At CIA, you know, one day it's a nuclear program.

0:38.4

Another day, it's a drug cartel.

0:40.6

Another day, it's a, you know, person related to some important world leader.

0:45.6

Right?

0:46.6

Like, I don't know anything about any of those things, but I need to learn very quickly

0:51.1

all of the things that are known.

0:55.9

I need to constantly be attuned to, well, if we're interested in answering this big question,

1:02.4

what are the unknowns and the things we need to know?

1:05.7

I'm David Pries and this is the LawFair podcast, November 5th, 2021.

1:12.7

Only twice in history have two women who served as CIA officers been elected to Congress.

1:19.2

The first time was 2018, the second one, 2020.

1:23.4

Both of them featuring Abigail Spanberger and Alyssa Slotkin.

1:28.0

I hosted an event this week for the Michael V. Hayden Center at George Mason University's

1:33.6

Char School of Government speaking with both of them about their careers both in the

1:38.3

intelligence community and in Congress.

1:41.6

Abigail Spanberger represents Virginia's seventh congressional district and was a CIA operations

1:46.4

officer from 2006 to 2014.

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