When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.

You do?

Yeah. Did you hear about that?

I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.

In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if

there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes

until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture

changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start

conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power

to change the way we see the world.

Here we go.

Today we're joined again by goal coach, author, speaker, and my very old friend, Abby Schiller.

This is Abby's fourth time on the podcast, and in each of her conversations

with us, she's explored different ways we move through change, whether it's processing

emotions around loss, setting meaningful goals to create a life we like, or figuring out what's

next at the end of a hard year. In this episode, she introduces the

idea of identity grief, something that many of us experience but don't always have language for.

It's the kind of grief that can show up when a role ends, when a chapter closes, or when

the version of ourselves we've known for a long time disappears.

And this time of year, graduations, transitions, the art of something new, can bring that feeling into sharper focus.

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