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Aaron Mate at UN: Syria probe was censored, and cover-up continues

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In closing remarks at a United Nations meeting, Aaron Maté of The Grayzone notes that no one disputes the fact that a probe by the Organisation For the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) of an alleged chemical attack in Douma, Syria was censored. Yet powerful states, including the US and UK, oppose any effort to address the suppression, including hearing from dissenting inspectors on the OPCW's Douma team. Support Pushback: https://www.patreon.com/aaronmate

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0:00.0

I want to note that in the responses from states, including the U.S. and U.K., that no one disputed the central claim of my remarks today,

0:11.0

which was that the findings of the Duma probe were suppressed, censored.

0:17.0

Now, I'm not here to pass any moral judgments, but I just want to note the fact that we have

0:21.6

member states who do not contest the documented fact that the doom of findings were suppressed,

0:28.1

but yet they oppose any action to address this suppression. And on that note, I'll also

0:35.7

point out that I asked a question of these delegations, the U.S.,

0:39.6

U.S., U.S., and France.

0:40.9

I mistakenly asked Germany, but they're not here, whether or not they will support the call

0:45.5

of distinguished diplomats like the first director general of the OPCW, Jose Bustani, and former

0:50.7

senior UN official Hans von Spoonik, to simply have the OPCW meet with all of the original members of the Duma team and let them, not just the two dissenting inspectors, but all the original members of the Duma team, let them discuss their concerns and let them put forth the evidence that was suppressed.

1:10.0

I never got an answer back to that question, which I've now asked several times.

1:14.6

What I did get from the representative of the UK was a substantive challenge on one issue,

1:22.6

which I appreciate him raising. Unfortunately, he has left the room,

1:25.6

so he's not here anymore to hear my response, which is unfortunate because I think he could benefit from hearing my answer.

1:32.3

Now, he pointed out that the IAT report, and he said it's on page 43, paragraph 6.106, he pointed out that he argued that the IAT does address the issue of whether foaming is consistent with chlorine gas.

1:47.3

Profuse rapid foaming, as observed and reported in Duma, is consistent with chlorine gas.

1:51.6

And he says that the IIT did address that issue.

1:54.7

I point out two things in response.

1:56.9

First of all, my argument was that the IIT's toxicologist does not issue a judgment on whether or not the symptoms, including profuse foaming seen in Duma, are consistent with chlorine gas. The IIT's toxicologist does not. Now, there is a reference, which the representative from the UK pointed to, of the IIT making a claim about chlorine gas and foaming, not specific to

2:20.2

Duma, not assessing whether those specific symptoms in Duma are consistent, but the

2:26.1

IT does make one reference, which I will read. This was the paragraph he referred me to.

2:30.0

It says this. The IIT also notes that as chlorine gas reacts with the cells and moisture in the gastrointestinal tract to produce acids, that reaction also leads to the oral and nasal secretion of a foam-like substance, which may or may not have a pink tint believed to be blood.

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