Hi, everyone, welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. Today's episode features A6 and Z co-founders Mark

Andrewston and Ben Horowitz in conversation with economist Tyler Cohen, who is chair of economics

at George Mason University and chairman and general director of the Mercatus Center there,

and also has a podcast, Conversations with Tyler. The discussion originally took place at our

most recent annual innovation summit

and covers everything from talent and tech trends to software-aiding culture or the other way

around. You can also find other podcasts and videos from this event at A6.Z.com slash summit.

Thank you all for coming. I'd like to start with the two of you as a couple. Oh yeah.

How was it you met at Netscape in 1995?

Well, Mark interviewed me, you know, way back then, and he interviewed me. I think, I was interviewing for a product management role.

And he was the founder of the company, and I had worked on a product called Lotus Notes. And Mark had a

fascination with Lotus Notes for a couple of reasons. One was, it was kind of sort of the

closest proprietary thing to the internet, and then they had email in it. And Netscape was looking

at doing email. She had all kinds of questions for me. And I remember him just being

absolutely shocked and flabbergasted that like 50% of our code base and Lotus Notes was just

making like all the land protocols work together, IPX and Apple Talk and NetBooE, NetBios. It was

you guys don't even know what any of that is anymore, but it was like

literally just making the network talk to each other, which he thought was like ridiculous

given there was TCPIP. That was the very first conversation we had. Mark, how did he do

in the interview? He did very good. He was very good. So, well, he had a giant asset. He was the first

employee from Lotus. So he looked great in comparison to all the ones we haven't seen before.

So, no, he did great.

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