Hi everyone, welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. I'm Sonal, and today Michael and I are sitting down with our

newest general partner, Martine Casado, who's going to be covering all things infrastructure,

which sounds like it be a really boring topic, but it's actually a very interesting topic,

especially given his background, which started off at Lawrence Livermore Laboratories and then

went into infrastructure after 9-11.

After we briefly cover his background, we talk about other interesting themes like the as a serviceification of everything, how open source is actually more important for reasons that we don't

quite realize and why selling to developers is so different. So at that, let's just get started.

Martin, welcome.

Happy to be here.

You just stopped that. You leaned into the mic and you said, happy to be here.

He is happy and he's going to get happier, I can tell you, as this interview goes on.

Or maybe the opposite as we start asking him lots of questions.

Martin, you're our news general partner,

and you are going to be covering everything infrastructure. Yeah. Yeah. So focused on to begin with infrastructure and in general enterprise. It's funny because we were just joking about this because

infrastructure, I think, is the sexiest topic on the planet, but I think the majority of the world

and I'm rolling my eyes right now. Yeah, it's like the most boring thing. And yet it is really

interesting. Has something changed in the evolution of computing that infrastructure is suddenly

sexy even outside of just this room? I mean... Or have you been hanging around with Peter Levine

too much? Or Kate, our friend Kate. You know, I actually think that the reason that infrastructure doesn't get a lot of billing is because we don't see a lot of it, right?

I mean, like, we focus on consumers, we focus on what we buy and what we use day to day.

But anytime you shine a light on general infrastructure, whether it's IT or not, people find it super fascinating. So this is going to sound really silly, but I'm going to give you two reasons. Have you ever seen that TV show really big machines?

Yes. I'm not.

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