Hello and welcome to a world to win, a podcast from Tribune magazine. I'm Grace Blakely

bringing you your weekly dose of socialist news, theory and action from around the world.

This week I speak to Jason Moore, environmental historian and professor of sociology at Binghampton

University about capitalism and climate breakdown. We discuss his brilliant books, capitalism

in the web of life and anthropocene or capitalism and ask what marks can teach us about the

multiple overlapping ecological crises our planet is currently facing.

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Champion of the world as our intro and outro music. And now here is Jason Moore on whether

we're really living in the age of the anthropocene.

Hello Jason Moore and thank you so much for joining me on this episode of a world to win.

How are you doing today? I'm doing well Grace. Thank you for having me.

Good. So we are going today to be talking about your, well several of your books. So capitalism

in the web of life and capitalism or anthropocene. And I want to start just by asking you about

those two words. As many of our listeners might not be of faith with with both of them,

perhaps that'd be more familiar with the idea of the anthropocene. But what of your conception,

the capitalism, if I'm saying that right, I've only ever seen it written down.

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