Hello and welcome to a world to win a podcast from Tribune magazine. I am Grace Blakely

bringing you your weekpidos of socialist news, theory and action from around the world.

This week I speak to Kyle Lewis and Will Strong, authors of Over Time, why we need a

shorter working week. We discuss the centrality of struggles over working time to the history

of class struggle, why the shorter working week should be a central demand of labour movements

today, and how we need to re-imagine work to build a more just and sustainable world.

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of the world as our intro and outro music. And now here, a Kyle and Will, and what exactly

they mean by a shorter working week.

Hello, Will Strong and Kyle Lewis, and thank you so much for joining me on this episode

of a world to win. How are you both today?

I'm good. Thanks.

Thanks. Yeah. Thank you for having us.

Good. It's great to have you both here. So let's get straight into it. We're talking about

your book over time. And can you just start by telling us exactly what you mean by the

shorter working week? Because some people will just hear this and think, well, I haven't

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