A whole book about fighting effed-up medical bills? Yes, please.

An Arm and a Leg

Documentary, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 30 June 2021

⏱️ 19 minutes

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For years, at ProPublica, Marshall Allen has been exposing health care grifters. (He’s our kind of guy.)Now, he's written a book… about how to fight back. It’s called “Never Pay the First Bill.” We talked. It was a whole vibe.

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0:00.0	When Marshall Allen was in the seventh grade, there was this eighth grader, a bully.
0:04.7	Everybody knew to watch out for this guy.
0:06.4	At recess, he looked for a target and then started a very structured routine.
0:11.5	And this guy's signature move was his big finish.
0:14.7	Get the victim in a headlock and spit in his hair.
0:17.9	One day, Marshall was that victim.
0:20.4	He starts pushing me around.
0:21.5	You want to fight?
0:22.5	I'm like, no, I don't want to fight.
0:24.9	Oh, you think you can take me?
0:26.2	No, I really don't think I can take you.
0:28.4	Well, it leads to the, he puts me in the headlock and he spits on my head.
0:34.2	Marshall slinks off to the bathroom, wipes his head with a paper towel, hopes nobody really
0:38.9	noticed.
0:40.1	Next day, exact same.
0:41.9	You got a problem with me?
0:42.9	Blah, blah, blah.
0:43.9	Then puts me in the headlock.
0:46.9	Day three, guy comes over and something happens.
0:50.1	This was just instinctive.
0:51.3	I did not even think about it, but I said to the guy, I was like, look, if you really
0:57.3	want to prove to everyone else that you're bigger than I am, you're stronger than I am,
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