Welcome to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris and my little cat.

Josie decided she wanted to join me.

We have a little area set up next to my desk where she likes to sleep and stuff and she just kind of

woke up.

All right, you're going to go over there now?

You want to go outside the room?

Well, I had to let Josie go and I know some of you, I have to disappoint you I'm sorry I know you want Josie to have her own

YouTube channel so you can watch Josie she's got a lot of interesting things she does by the way

It might even be more interesting than the conversations that matter or

podcast. It might actually get more attention. There might be more

subscribers, but it's not going to happen so you're just going to have to satisfy

yourself with you know the little mentions here and there when she jumps up on my

desk or something but no more Josie we're going to talk about some serious

things here today some things that I've been toying around with I've been thinking about the Robbie Zuckerberg situation

has been ongoing the last couple years and in the kind of the final you know

unfortunately after his death if the final kind of cherry on top was a few weeks ago and I just

with that with the report I forget how many pages 20 15 pages something like that

I haven't read the whole thing.

I know enough.

A lot of people have said a lot about it,

and I just have thought, man, I don't have much to add to this.

I've asked the patrons, do you want me to talk about this? know I don't always ask for their opinion on things but this is one thing that I just I had a question on you know I don't know would it help and I don't think I don't think I have a lot to add. I'll be honest with you, but I did, I thought it was a good setup for what we're going to talk about, which is whistleblowing. It's not a biblical word, but it is a concept that there's biblical principles that that come to bear on this and so I want to talk about those

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