A Whale of a Taxonomy

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 274 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

What do nuclear energy and whale-hunting have in common? They're both at the heart of controversial debates about whether they can ever be described as 'sustainable'. This week we delve into a questionable EU anti-greenwashing effort, as well as Iceland's mooted plan to put a ban on commercial whaling. We're also looking at the revamp of one of Venice's most historic buildings, the Procuratie Vecchie. Emma Ursich, whose NGO The Human Safety Net will be among its new occupants, is here to explain why the building is opening its doors after half a millennium closed to the public. You can check out Influence Map's investigation into the EU gas lobby here, and listen to our producer Katz Laszlo's beautiful piece 'Whale Fall' here. This week's Isolation Inspiration: The Trojan Horse Affair and Glória. 03:01 Bad Week: Gas, nuclear and the EU taxonomy 11:56 Good Week: Whales off the coast of Iceland 22:01 Interview: Emma Ursich on remaking the Procuratie Vecchie 31:53 Isolation Inspiration: The Trojan Horse Affair and Gloria 34:29 Happy Ending: amazing Swiss scientists Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few euros / dollars / pounds a month at patreon.com/europeanspodcast. You can also help new listeners find the show by leaving us a review or giving us five stars on Spotify. Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina This podcast is part of the Are We Europe family. Find more like-minded European podcasts at areweeurope.com/audio-family. Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | [email protected]

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0:00.0	Hi K.T.
0:07.0	Hi Katie.
0:24.2	Hello, how are you, Dominic?
0:27.1	I'm fine, but I do have the novel coronavirus.
0:31.5	I tempted fate in the show last week by saying, oh, I think I'm about to get it.
0:35.5	And I did.
0:36.1	You kind of cursed yourself.
0:37.4	I did. On the other hand, I feel like I need to take back my slander against trains. I suggested
0:42.2	that I was going to get it because I'd been on so many busy trains. But in the end, I just
0:46.1	got it from singing in a rehearsal with a group of people who all got it. And I mean, they've been saying that singing is a risky activity and it is. But
0:55.3	fortunately, I'm okay. I'm glad to hear it. I got mine from a quite fancy British supermarket chain
1:01.5	that I'm not going to name. But it did make me feel like I had a sort of classy version of COVID.
1:06.6	So you didn't get it from Tesco's. Thanks. Just ruined our chances of having a sponsorship from Tesco's.
1:13.0	Other supermarkets are available.
1:14.5	How have you been Katie?
1:15.7	I've been fine.
1:16.5	I've mostly spent this week worrying about Wordle, not the English version, which is being sold
1:21.4	to the New York Times, as you may have seen, but the other language versions of this
1:25.5	phenomenally popular word game, what's going to happen
1:27.5	to them? Because I've been playing the French one and loads of people have been playing
1:30.7	like the Portuguese version or the Norwegian version. Have you been playing in any language?
1:35.4	I've been playing in English, but it's funny you should say this because I was just on Twitter
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