Hello, this is the WebBox forecast. I'm Matt Shorley. In Cardiff today, my tour of the

country continues to the standup show in Cardiff last night and we've been broadcasting

on Times Radio Live from the National Museum in Cardiff today. Coming up on the podcast,

I've been chatting to Simon Hart, the Welsh Secretary, about everything from the future

of Wales, the prospect of independence, the future of Boris Johnson too, and all those

recorded a few days ago, I asked him as well about the Ukrainian situation as well. So that's

coming up on the podcast, just a moment. Also, the incredible story of John Hughes, the Welshman

who founded the Ukrainian city of Denetsk, which seemed like the perfect opportunity to

tell that story while we were here in Wales. But first, we kick off with our economy's

panel, a special Welsh communist panel joining us here in the museum. We were joined by

Will Hayward, the Wales Affairs Editor from Wales online, and Blomwin Weatherby, from the

press association. Let's kick off, obviously, with the situation in Ukraine. Clearly, the

sort of national diplomatic and military response is being led from Westminster. What's the

response? Is there a separate and distinct response on Wales as well, Will? Well, MacRapher

does like to do a separate response where he can. He's announced 4 million of aid to Ukraine

from Wales. He's also announced that Wales will be a nation of sanctuary, which is a bit

of a contrast to what Priti Patel who's kind of been dragged kicking and streaming to have

been almost a nation of sanctuary if you were related to someone quite distantly maybe.

So it's actually quite interesting this. Wales has always had a bit more of a different

attitude towards immigration, as opposed to England, though. There is quite widespread

support in England for allowing refugees to come from Ukraine. And I think part of that

is, I mean, if you look at the building room now, this is the National Museum in Cardiff,

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