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I got a phone call yesterday morning from Nick Cooper to say that his father Derek had died. I knew Derek Cooper as a

friend and colleague. I was his producer for many years and he was my mentor, a

formidable journalist and broadcaster, but crucially someone who changed

the face of food broadcasting. Derek, in fact, changed the game for all of us. He was the founder and guiding spirit of the food program from 1979 when it started.

His mission, as you'll hear, was not just to celebrate, but to shine a forensic light on food,

and to ask questions that hardly anyone back then even knew needed asking.

The program you're about to hear is based on a 1999 archive hour

we produced to mark the 20th anniversary of the food program. For me it captures the essence of Derek, his humor, he was a very funny

man, that amazing voice, his intelligence, his Scottish roots, his toughness, but also his love of words, and even more marked love of what

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