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The Michael Shermer Show

A Trial by Media Ended Caylan Ford’s Career in 4 Hours

The Michael Shermer Show

Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4921 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 142 minutes

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Summary

Caylan Ford is a documentary filmmaker, charter school founder, and a former political candidate. She holds a Bachelor’s degree (Hons.) in Chinese history from the University of Calgary, a Master’s degree in International Affairs from the George Washington University, and a Master’s in International Human Rights Law from the University of Oxford.

She spent many years in the international human rights field, including by increasing access to anti-surveillance and censorship tools in Iran, China, and Myanmar; working with civil rights lawyers representing political dissidents; supporting refugee and asylum claimants; and conducting and publishing original research on the repression of religious minorities in China.

She has written and co-produced two feature documentary films on the themes of religious and political persecution, censorship, forced labor, scapegoating, and mass persuasion under totalitarian regimes.

Her new documentary film, When the Mob Came, focuses on her experience of cancel culture following a catastrophic bid for political office.

Shermer and Ford discuss: • education reform • public vs. private vs. charter schools • the blank slate • Thomas Sowell’s Constrained Vision vs. Unconstrained Vision • French Revolution vs. American Revolution • truth, justice, and reality • what promotes humanity and what degrades it • transhumanism • political correctness • identity politics • cancel culture • totalitarianism • preference falsification • free speech • hate speech • how to stand up to cancel culture.

Transcript

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You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. The Michael Sherber Show All right, everybody, it's Michael Sherman.

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It's time for another episode of the Michael Sherman Show, brought to you by Skeptic Society

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and Skeptic magazine.

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Here is our latest issue on educational reform which our

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guest today has something to say about among other things you can get the

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latest issue at skeptic.com slash magazine you can get it digitally or we're one of the few people that are still in physical print.

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Look at that, four color throughout.

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You can pick it up at fine bookstores everywhere, or through our subscription service there. and if you want to give us a

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little love in support of the podcast we are a 501c3 nonprofit science

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education organization skeptic.com slash donate okay my guest today if you're not Canadian I would describe

1:06.0

her as the most interesting person you've never heard of. I don't follow

1:10.6

Canadian politics so I didn't know and Kaylin I watched your documentary film which I'm going to introduce here in just a second

1:17.4

while I was stuck in a Dallas, Dallas-Fort Worth Airport for seven hours with delayed flights. I thought I've been and your public

1:24.3

has sent me the the length so I just watched the whole thing sitting there.

1:26.9

I'm gonna watch it three times by the time the flight got canceled. Two in the

1:31.2

morning. Anyway that's another story. Okay, let me give you a

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proper introduction here. Halen Ford is a documentary filmmaker, writer, researcher, charter,

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school founder, and a former political candidate. She's interested in the problem of political and philosophical evil,

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which we'll get into here.

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And most of her work is animated by a desire to help people recover their roots in reality

1:51.0

and their orientation toward the divine.

1:54.0

Hmm, interesting.

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